Pinned comment question: what non-horror game has scared you the most?

Remember all those fanmade Chapter 2 Genocide Route stuff? How everyone was so fixated on the idea that if Chapter 2 DID have a Genocide Route, it would just be "Undertale Genocide but again" and play out the exact same with forcing Kris to kill everyone?

One small detail that many people miss is that when Flowey begs for you to not kill him, the text isn’t using Flowey’s voice as the individual letters appear… it’s Asriel’s voice.

I can’t do the evil routes at all. I even feel bad making Kris hug Ralsei because I didn’t pick up on the clues that Kris doesn’t like hugging people, and doesn’t particularly like Ralsei either. It’s so hard because Ralsei is scientifically designed to be the cutest, fluffiest boy.

honestly, a quote from the game "Nefarious" fits your description of the genocide route:

the worst thing about berdly's death is that the moment he realized something is wrong and noelle is genuinely afraid he dropped the whole smart gag and jumped to questioning kris and trying to protect noelle. he's up his own ass but he's not a bad person, he jumped to protect his best friend when he realized something is incredibly off

I appreciate that even if the Sans fight wasn't relevant to your discussion, you understood your entire audience's collective need to vibe to Megalovania

Somethings I found pretty terrifying are…

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Undertales Genocide /Deltarunes snowgrave route is like what you'd expect from a creepypasta. Like it sounds so ridiculous if you've never ever heard of these games, but I think it works so well. Really just a hidden horror game tbh

Fun fact: I gave up when fighting Undyne. She won, she stopped me as the true hero.

I love how the fanbase collectively created and adopted the name Omegaflowey. His transformation is never given a special name in the game (except for the credits where he is named photoshop flowey) but almost everyone agrees to call him Omegaflowey because it sounds cool

For me, Spamton is actually the most unsettling character presentation Toby Fox has written so far. What at first glance appears to be a broken toy climbing out of a dumpster muttering to himself is actually a person, and he gets very aggressively interested very quickly in Kris, who is actually visibly afraid of the man. He's difficult to understand at first, and projects himself onto Kris, cackling before punching the dumpster in sudden rage. Then he goes right back to his sales pitch like nothing happened.

I was kinda hoping you'd go over how Flowey is actually watching you progress through the game in Undertale but always just off screen if you're not quick enough to spot.

The scariest thing about Deltarune is the fact that Queen only plays mobile games

One of my favorite differences in the genocide route is something so small and insignificant but it really stuck with me, and that is the instant noodles item. Because in any normal route, it’s a silly little “oh haha it takes forever to use and then doesn’t even heal much” sort of gag item that really just adds to the silly absurdity of Undertale. Then, in the geno route, having it be a great healing item with the simple use line of “It’s better dry” is so raw and just evokes so much the first time you see it. It’s such a small detail but it really adds to how much the tone changes and how all the charm and silliness of the game is completely thrown out the window

Also, something cool about berdly in the snow grave route is that he looks serious in his fight. Like he is actually trying to help out his friend from the monster that you are. And another thing is that if during the berdly kris goes down noelle will say that she can still hear their voice, kris’ voice, telling her what to do. Literally calling out the player and saying that it’s your fault, not kris’ fault. It’s not kris that abused noelle, kris never wanted this, you did,you’re the one that wanted this.